Posts Tagged ‘rec.music.classical’

“Morally and intellectual superior”

Thursday, August 10th, 2000

I’m excited: there’s a new Godspeed You Black Emperor! album coming soon. Double LP on Constellation, double CD on Kranky. If it’s anywhere near the quality of their last release (the EP Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada), I will be a very happy person.

I’ve followed part of the rec.music.classical thread “Our children and music” with interest (man, if you thought rec.music.progressive flamewars were exasperatingly uppity, try this one); there are a couple tidbits from it summarized nicely at josh blog. “…grant me that Beethoven’s Opus 133 String Quartet is morally and intellectually superior to Pearl Jam’s Dopus Whatever…” This guy has a serious stick up his ass. The sick thing is, there are plenty of people like him: if you thought prog-snobs were grossly elitist, check out classical music snobs. Jesus. A mild (no, really) example from a few days ago:

“If I were a rock listener, I would have them forcibly detain me, shut me in a cell and play me enough classical music until I saw the errors of my ways. Do unto others….”
— “John” on rec.music.classical

Interesting reading on this topic: Lawrence Levine’s Highbrow/Lowbrow: The Emergence of Cultural Hierarchy in America.

Didn’t you see Amadeus?

Tuesday, February 22nd, 2000

A good friend of mine, Rich Worf, points out that Richard Wagner was old - by classical standards - when he began writing music: “He was mostly interested in acting and politics and couldn’t even read music until he was 25 or so. That’s still young by jazz standards, but ancient compared to Mozart or Bach.”

The upcoming Transatlantic (Stolt/Morse/Portnoy/Trewavas) album will be entitled SMPTe. Pronounced photetically, this comes out as an odd Spanglish phrase: “es empty”. I hope that doesn’t describe the music.

Forgive me the following undignified indulgence.

Most Amusing Thread Ever in rec.music.classical: “Classical Music: Corrupting Our Youth?” in which one Scott Harper (who, strangely enough, crossposted the thread into rec.sport.football.college) complains about the “Erotica Trio”: “three young, attractive, scantily clad ladies caressing their instruments in very suggestive manners”. There is of course no such trio, Mr. Harper having actually seen an advertisement for the Eroica Trio - who, while they are young, attractive women, don’t exactly dress “scantily”. When presented with this possibility, Mr. Harper promptly called Beethoven a pervert for naming his symphony “Eroica”, and continued: “And no, I don’t ‘get it’… What does the 3rd symphony or a trio have to do with Erotica? Unless you are talking about one of those three-way things, and that is really sick.” It gets better, believe it or not. Read:

In article <38B18FFE.1EEBDC46@erols.com>, hok007@erols.com wrote:

>> Well, I guess theres another example of Beethoven’s perversiveness, eh?
>>
>
>Am I missing something? What is “perversive” about naming a piece of
>music Eroica (i.e., upon the “heroic” figure of a great man)? It is
>*possible* that the Eroica Trio chose the name in part because it
>resonates with the English word “erotic” (and is apt to cause a double
>take in those of us less familiar with its Beethoveenian origins), but
>that hardly makes it or Beethoven perverse.

It is well known about Beethoven’s perversiveness. Didn’t you see
“Amadeus?”

What this guy is even doing in a classical music newsgroup, I have no idea. In addition to his ignorance, he has absolutely no idea what sarcasm is, and he views any argument as a personal attack. What’s with all these Usenet moron types anyway? - they’re all the damn same, I swear. To the newsgroup’s credit, they were fairly tolerant at first, but once Mr. Harper showed himself as an arrogant personality unable to take criticism, they let loose with flames that would do rec.music.progressive proud. I encourage you to go to deja.com and check out this thread… the entertainment is well worth your time. :)